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Agents is running but not reporting
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The current version is deployed on a server but I don't know if it's working properly or not. I need to deploy it to all the servers to notice if there's a problem or not.
Is it possible to make an unattended installation ? It is too time consuming to upgrade all the servers manually.
We have no unattended version because each agent has to be assigned to the correct report/owner which happens at installation time, those codes you use. The codes are what create the association.
I would just pick one server and see if we can get that one going. You said all of the servers should be identical so if one works, the rest should.
Can you expand on why you're not sure if it's working or not. Can you share the ID and I'll take a look.
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We have no unattended version because each agent has to be assigned to the correct report/owner which happens at installation time, those codes you use. The codes are what create the association.
I would just pick one server and see if we can get that one going. You said all of the servers should be identical so if one works, the rest should.
Can you expand on why you're not sure if it's working or not. Can you share the ID and I'll take a look.
The agent ID 128994 was updated to the latest version.
I am not sure if it is working because I don't know if the OtmWinClient.exe process has stopped or not since I updated it (my servers are not always on, we shut them down at night).
I just realized I can set a monitor on this process. It will log an alert on Itarian (my remote management tool) when OtmWinClient.exe has stopped. I also configured an auto remediation action that will restart the OtmService. It might solve my problem.
Would it be possible to update existing installations without needing to re-enter the keys ? Because I can't update manually 22 servers every time there is a new release.
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No, nothing is coming in from that agent, it is not communicating at all.
It's not possible to update agents without the keys. As I mentioned, it's because those keys are what are used to assign the software side that you install to the reports on OutagesIO.
That would be a nice idea for the Enterprise side of our service but I'm not sure how it could be done. The software still has to know which reports/member owns it.
Once we have a solid agent, it usually doesn't change much unless MS changed something that forces us to have to update.
I'll bring it up as a topic however.
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No, nothing is coming in from that agent, it is not communicating at all.
It's not possible to update agents without the keys. As I mentioned, it's because those keys are what are used to assign the software side that you install to the reports on OutagesIO.
That would be a nice idea for the Enterprise side of our service but I'm not sure how it could be done. The software still has to know which reports/member owns it.
Once we have a solid agent, it usually doesn't change much unless MS changed something that forces us to have to update.
I'll bring it up as a topic however.
The server was shutdown yesterday so it is normal there was no communication from that agent.
My fix seem to work (restart OtmService if OtmWinClient.exe is not running) and all the agents are now up. It's a bit of a dirty solution but it was at least simple to implement.
For other softwares like Itarian or Teamviewer agents, it is possible to embed the authentication keys in the installer and the agents update automatically. When I deploy the Itarian agent, I just double click on the installer and the agent will be automatically configured with my account and reporting to the management portal.
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We're going to try testing on a 2016 here as well.
If the same key could be used, that would work but right now, I don't see how agents can be installed without a unique key as they would not know which reports to write to.
I've got it in my notes as something to bring up.
However, something like this would only be available in our Enterprise level service as the lower levels aren't really built to handle so many agents.
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We're going to try testing on a 2016 here as well.
If the same key could be used, that would work but right now, I don't see how agents can be installed without a unique key as they would not know which reports to write to.
I've got it in my notes as something to bring up.
However, something like this would only be available in our Enterprise level service as the lower levels aren't really built to handle so many agents.
The agent 128994 which is under the latest release has already stopped 9 times this morning, see below the logs.
(ON means the monitor is triggered because the agent is not running, OFF means the monitor is not triggered because the agent is running).
2022/06/28 12:33:18 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:33:14 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:31:37 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:31:33 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:30:01 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:29:57 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:26:52 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:26:48 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:25:14 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:25:10 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:08:28 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:08:24 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:06:21 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:06:17 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:05:09 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:05:05 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:01:28 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:01:22 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running -
The agent 128994 which is under the latest release has already stopped 9 times this morning, see below the logs.
(ON means the monitor is triggered because the agent is not running, OFF means the monitor is not triggered because the agent is running).
2022/06/28 12:33:18 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:33:14 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:31:37 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:31:33 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:30:01 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:29:57 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:26:52 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:26:48 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:25:14 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:25:10 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:08:28 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:08:24 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:06:21 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:06:17 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:05:09 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:05:05 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/28 12:01:28 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/28 12:01:22 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running -
That's great, thanks. Any more logs or information you might see that can be shared?
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Why don't you change the apps to admin in the properties box (compatibility tab \ run as administrator) and see if that helps.
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Only the top-most entry is shown. So it would be interesting to see if the others have the same “fault offset”
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Can you let me know which version specifically please.
Standard or standard with desktop or dc or dc with desktop?
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Why don't you change the apps to admin in the properties box (compatibility tab \ run as administrator) and see if that helps.
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Can you let me know which version specifically please.
Standard or standard with desktop or dc or dc with desktop?
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Why don't you change the apps to admin in the properties box (compatibility tab \ run as administrator) and see if that helps.
@OutagesIO_Support said in Agents is running but not reporting:
Why don't you change the apps to admin in the properties box (compatibility tab \ run as administrator) and see if that helps.
I prefer not to try that unless you have a good reason to think it can solve the issue.
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That's great, thanks. Any more logs or information you might see that can be shared?
@OutagesIO_Support said in Agents is running but not reporting:
That's great, thanks. Any more logs or information you might see that can be shared?
Not from the event viewer I guess. Is there any application logs somewhere ?
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To be transparent, we're not trying random things, we're actually working on this in the lab.
So far, we are able to find some small things we can improve on but have not been able to replicate this. On our 2016 test, it's working non stop, the service does not get turned off. Therefore, we need you to try things on your server that we don't have access to in order to get some feedback otherwise, it's hard to help.
Right now, we could use more logs from your server so the agent developer can have some leads.
We really want to see this working for you. We think it's important because we aren't really supporting servers and maybe we should.
Most Enterprise customers use hardware agents because they don't have to deal with any of this. They install the agent, power it up, it's done. The agent self updates when and as needed and we can even troubleshoot them from remote.
We have to keep in mind that every server out there is different from others. Even if your are all the same to each other, they are not the same as other win2016 servers. Combinations of settings, software installed, countless things make every server unique.
Anyhow, we appreciate your patience and if you are willing to continue, we are working on it in the background.
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To be transparent, we're not trying random things, we're actually working on this in the lab.
So far, we are able to find some small things we can improve on but have not been able to replicate this. On our 2016 test, it's working non stop, the service does not get turned off. Therefore, we need you to try things on your server that we don't have access to in order to get some feedback otherwise, it's hard to help.
Right now, we could use more logs from your server so the agent developer can have some leads.
We really want to see this working for you. We think it's important because we aren't really supporting servers and maybe we should.
Most Enterprise customers use hardware agents because they don't have to deal with any of this. They install the agent, power it up, it's done. The agent self updates when and as needed and we can even troubleshoot them from remote.
We have to keep in mind that every server out there is different from others. Even if your are all the same to each other, they are not the same as other win2016 servers. Combinations of settings, software installed, countless things make every server unique.
Anyhow, we appreciate your patience and if you are willing to continue, we are working on it in the background.
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I have enabled to run OtmWinClient.exe as Administrator on agent 128994 :
I'll let you know if I see the agent stopping and being restarted.
I didn't solve the problem, the agent stopped 5 times today :
2022/06/30 03:00:49 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/30 03:00:47 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/30 02:59:25 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/30 02:59:23 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/30 02:55:29 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/30 02:55:27 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/30 02:50:32 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/30 02:50:30 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running 2022/06/30 02:46:35 PM OFF Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is running 2022/06/30 02:46:29 PM ON Process Monitor : Condition: OtmWinClient.exe is not running - Status is not running -
I'm not a Windows person so not sure what to look for specifically but I know that in the events manager, the system will keep a lot of lots and usually shows why a service would be shut down. It doesn't seem to be crashing, it seems to be being shut down by the server. There is perhaps a policy or something kicking in.
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I'm not a Windows person so not sure what to look for specifically but I know that in the events manager, the system will keep a lot of lots and usually shows why a service would be shut down. It doesn't seem to be crashing, it seems to be being shut down by the server. There is perhaps a policy or something kicking in.
