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Agent keeps going inactive / disconnecting

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    wrote on last edited by OutagesIO_Support
    #9

    Well, at least we have a lead right.
    Now, do you have another server or device you could ping from that is connected to the same network?
    Something that's connected to the same switch or router that this server is connected to.
    I mention that because sometimes there are multiple switches and/or routers.

    If you can test pings / tracert from another server/device on the same network, that might give you another lead. If you see all responses, then it leads us back to the server the agent is running on. If there are no responses, it leads us to the switch or router that is upstream possibly blocking ICMP at some level or another.

    Properly secured equipment often limits the amount of ICMP traffic to lower the chance of being scanned and other hack attempts or simply to lower resource usage.

    Maybe something upstream is simply blocking ICMP when it thinks there's too much traffic coming from something inside or outside the network.

    ICMP limiting is a common thing and that could cause you to see results then none after what it deems too much traffic.

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      I was able to ping both URLs from another machine on the same switch, but tracert would give the same "time out" result as the server. As far as I know, ICMP isn't being blocked by the firewall, but I will check that.

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        #11

        What's interesting and maybe just a coincidence is restarting the agent service seems to fix the problem temporarily. That implies that whatever is upstream is allowing some ICMP traffic and then blocking it.

        FYI, the agent uses standard port 80/443, and ICMP. While ICMP is a small part of actually detecting an outage, it's an important part because it's not only part of the heartbeat to know if it is still communicating but also for the agent to send updated hops changes and other tests.

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          If your office has a managed services arrangement with an outside company, it might be worth asking them if they have any ICMP (and/or other) limiters put in place. If it's not them and you can't find anything in the building, then it could also be the provider.

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            #13

            Hi, as an update, 'Back online" email is correct now.

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              #14

              Good afternoon.....

              I believe I've got everything resolved. So, Cisco disables / blocks ICMP traffic by default to any outside interface. Once I allowed ICMP traffic on my firewall / ASA, my "hops" started showing in the history, and tracert to foxymon.com and tpw.outagesio.com (as well as to any other url) were no longer giving a "time out".

              Thank you to everyone for the help!

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                #15

                Hi,

                That's great to hear and I now see hops coming in which means everything should work now.
                It also means your hardware agent should function perfectly once you receive it.

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                  #16

                  I actually just submitted another question regarding the hardware agent.... it is not showing pings or hops, but is connected to the same switch as the server hosting the software agent that is now working fine.

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                    #17

                    That's a bit humorous. We were just sending an email to that agent owner about that then noticed it's the same address.

                    I've asked our dev to look into this one because now I'm stumped and need more input on why it would see a local outage without ICMP.

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                      #18

                      The "outage" may have been my fault... I switched to a different port on the switch hoping it would possibly correct the no ping / no hops issue lol.

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                        #19

                        As far as I understand it, that should have created only an Inactive, not an outage. Give us a few minutes to look into this (ID 130432).

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                          mshafrin
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                          #20

                          I don’t know if this means anything, but the date and time shown for all the events are incorrect. It’s showing 8-16-23 at 11am, but it’s almost 3:30pm here by me in NJ

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                            wrote on last edited by OutagesIO_Support
                            #21

                            Hi,

                            First I need to confirm with you that the agent was activated by you on 2023-08-21 11:25:03 UTC time i.e today at 7:25 am NJ timezone

                            Ed (K.)
                            Development Team

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                              #22

                              I was activated by me at about 2:30pm (NJ time).

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                                #23

                                I activated the HW agent about 2:30pm (NJ time).

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                                  #24

                                  My bad: the time I gave you was MST not UTC so all fine with the 2:25 (almost 2:30) pm

                                  What I think it is happening is that the agent has a wrong date which is kind of weird!!!!

                                  Pings are coming in and hops came in too but with wrong dates

                                  Let me see what I can do

                                  Ed (K.)
                                  Development Team

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                                    #25

                                    Is it possible that port UDP 123 (NTP service) has been blocked in your network ?

                                    Ed (K.)
                                    Development Team

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                                      mshafrin
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                                      #26

                                      Not to my knowledge. My workstations and servers are able to sync with time servers, so as far as I know, it’s not blocked.

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                                        #27

                                        I have been able to change the date and time right now but the NTP is not working so the agent's time is not exact (almost 1 min off)

                                        All agents are in sync with the ntp.org servers so either the port or the URL are somehow blocked

                                        All the confusion in hops and pings is in fact associated to the date and time sent by the agent that remained stuck to Aug 16 when it was prepared and shipped.

                                        Pings are coming in correctly, you should see them and hops too.
                                        I will change the historical data so they can fit the correct timing but the issue of the NTP not working properly on that agent is still unsolved.

                                        Ed (K.)
                                        Development Team

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                                          #28

                                          I opened UPD 123 on my ASA. Would you be able to check if the device is now properly getting its time synced?

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